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- Date: Tue, 4 Jan 94 04:30:16 PST
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- Subject: Ham-Policy Digest V93 #564
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- Ham-Policy Digest Tue, 4 Jan 94 Volume 93 : Issue 564
-
- Today's Topics:
- Spirit of radio...
- The 10-meters band - No CW required ? (2 msgs)
-
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- Date: 4 Jan 94 01:18:22 GMT
- From: ogicse!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!dobrowol@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Spirit of radio...
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- dan@mystis.wariat.org (Dan Pickersgill N8PKV) writes:
- >trd54583@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Cynops pyrrhogaster ) writes:
-
- >And are FM radio's free where you live? Can I get a few?
-
- Yes and No... I'd bet that the odds are much better that I
- can come by a used/discarded/whatever (yet working) FM radio receiver than
- finding a ham set...even with Hamfests going on all over the place. (I keep
- wishing I could run accross a nice HF set in somebody's garbage }:)
-
- >Besides I bet that your pirate FM transmitter could work on SOME ham band.
- >So the
- >equipment issue is really a blind. You say that pirate radio operators
- >can equip themselves for 'broadcasting' but could not find equipment for
- >ham radio? Thin, very thin. (Damn near invisible!)
-
- Hmm, I don't think that it is as thin as you make it out to be. You are
- focusing on the broadcaster side...while I was looking at the receiving
- side. Sure, a pirate can get ham equipment instead of public FM equipment.
- But just how many people (of his intended audience) are gonna hear him?
-
- Furthermore, there's the whole social/political issue: With the wide outreach
- provided by the 88-108 MHz band...why shut down (as of 1980) low power
- broadcasters? Why force people to have to move to another (relatively) harder
- to access band just so that they can hear some worthwhile information instead
- of commercial drivel?
-
- Even further still...you say that the micro broadcaster could work some ham
- band. For the sake of argument, let's say he did and people could somewhere
- get access to hearing it (scanners, radios, etc.). He STILL wouldn't be able
- to do what he was doing...he wouldn't be able to carry out his broadcasting
- objectives. I don't think it would be looked upon too favorably if someone
- broadcast local news or employment opportunities or readings on the history
- of a certain group over the ham bands and "tied up the frequency."
-
- /lw
-
- ( ( | ) ) free the airwaves
- | community micro radio
- /-\ "let a thousand transmitters bloom"
-
- --
- LunarWolf - spleen@uiuc.edu - T.R. Dobrowolsky - kb9iqx
-
- Natural Resources & Environmental Science
- University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
-
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- Date: Mon, 03 Jan 94 18:07:16 EST
- From: qualcomm.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!wariat.org!mystis!dan@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: The 10-meters band - No CW required ?
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- Ed Ellers <EDELLERS@delphi.com> writes:
-
- > "Check out Class A CB some time. It is a whole 'nother story."
- >
- > It is indeed, although it has long since become the General Mobile Radio
- > Service. It was created to allow BUSINESSES as well as individuals access to
- > land mobile radio at a time when most businesses didn't qualify; ironically
- > the FCC now will not grant new GMRS licenses to business users, since all can
- > now qualify for business frequencies.
- >
- > -- Ed Ellers, KD4AWQ
-
- As may be Ed, but it is STILL class A CB and under part 95.
-
-
- Dan Pickersgill N8PKV / dan@mystis.wariat.org / ac447@po.cwru.edu
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Moving parts in rubbing contact require lubrication to avoid excess wear.
- Honorifics and formal politeness provide lubrication where people rub
- together. Often the very young, the naive, the unsophisticated deplore
- these formalities as "empty", "Meaningless", "Dishonest", and scorn to
- use them. No matter how "pure" their motives, they throw sand into
- machinery that does not work too well at best. -L. Long
-
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-
- Date: Mon, 03 Jan 94 18:09:32 EST
- From: qualcomm.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!wariat.org!mystis!dan@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: The 10-meters band - No CW required ?
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- jmaynard@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
-
- > In article <V9JkFc3w165w@mystis.wariat.org>,
- > Dan Pickersgill N8PKV <dan@mystis.wariat.org> wrote:
- > >I realize that being a contributing member of the Ham Society requires
- > >substationally more EFFORT than JUST MEMORIZING 40 simple characters.
- >
- > Sorry, but, while you may be able to level that argument at Robert, you can't
- > make that stick to me. I've spent 15 years trying to improve the two meter
- > landscape in the Houston area. Despite the best efforts of a lot of folks,
- > it's still a sewer.
- >
- > Of course, it's easy for you to point fingers and whine about CW requirements
- > and claim that it's a simple memorization task (free clue: it isn't). I've
- > served in more ham organizations in positions of responsibility, managed more
- > nets, done more public service, brought more folks into the ranks, and
- > contributed more of my time, sweat, blood, tears, and soul to this service
- > than nearly all of the college-spoiled anti-CW whiners on this net. Wanna
- > accuse me of not being a contributing member of the brotherhood of ham radio?
- > Drop dead.
- >
- > >(If the above sounds like a flame I am sorry. It was NOT intended to
- > >sound like one nor BE one. I am just tired of hearing your song and
- > >dance. Stand up and make a change. DO SOMETHING!)
- >
- > I've been busting my balls for half my lifetime trying to make a change. Why
- > do you think I'm so unhappy that others are trying to tear down that which
- > I've spent so much time and effort building up?
- >
- > Relaxing requirements will only hasten ham radio's slide into ruin.
-
- Jay, the above quoted message was addressed to Robert, specifically and
- personally. I was getting a bit tired of his bashing of an entire
- group of hams. If _YOU_ choose to read yourself into it, maybe a close
- inspection of the mirror is in order before you start issuing denials.
-
-
- Dan Pickersgill N8PKV / dan@mystis.wariat.org / ac447@po.cwru.edu
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Moving parts in rubbing contact require lubrication to avoid excess wear.
- Honorifics and formal politeness provide lubrication where people rub
- together. Often the very young, the naive, the unsophisticated deplore
- these formalities as "empty", "Meaningless", "Dishonest", and scorn to
- use them. No matter how "pure" their motives, they throw sand into
- machinery that does not work too well at best. -L. Long
-
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